In the hardware reviews, there is the shootout from Hexus. They remove the heat sinks to show the card and chips. I would like to see/know how well this card would accept a water block to integrate a dual 7800 setup into my current water cooling system. I am running a triple monitor system and this card makes this quite a bit easier to do than the the 6600 cards. Obviously I can not run this in SLI mode with three displays.
The whole whopping 1% faster then, doesn't account for $50 plus a $40 game, at lease not to my wallet. I mean give me a break already, the card was like 1 FPS faster give or take a half of frame! But, ooooohhhh its "Over clocked" and I guess you get a cookie for that?
Then again, if your buying a graphics card this expensive, I'm sure you have the money to go out and buy all the games you want anyhow. Even then the benchmarks were just not impressive at all (realitive to 7800 vs. 7800).
I think, on the next review you should have the 7800GTXs stock speeds AND the 7800GTXs speeds that are OC to the exact same speed. It's harder to compare which is better because of the clock speeds.
If you have eVGA, BFG, and etc. all at the same clock speeds, we'll truely be able to compare which is better
I believe the whole point is that there is *NO* difference between any of the current 7800GTX cards if they are clocked the same. Minor differences in fan speed seem to be the major influence right now.
I love this website, it's my favorite hardware site, but I really have to ask, do we really need reviews of the same hardware?
A quick overview, is the most thats really needed.
Really, Anand was talking about the 4fps difference between the games in 4xAA as actually a deciding factor??? It's 4fps guys!!
In all honesty, the only think people should look at, so long as the core/memory speeds are in-line, is the package and cooling used.
And by the looks of it, they are all folowing the same cooling options, so I would just like at the package (vivo?/cables/games) and choose from there.
Because in all seriousness, they are all the same.
Perhaps, disregarg the entire video card section altogether, until there is something, actually worth talking about...
We all know that the GTX is the fastest card on the market, but the article could've been summed up in a few lines. "The card is oc, it cost a bit more, and doesn't offer any real extra performance, much like all other GTX's"
There's always new hardware coming out.. AT doesn;t have to review the same video card 3 times ya know...
I'm in the process of buying a new machine, everything new, and i'm contemplating waiting on a 7700gt, because of the price it may sell for, and how it may overclock/unlock..
But I'm also extremly pissedd off at ATi for taking so damn long... they've basically lost my sale (if the product could've proved to have been better that is).
Hey Derek, this is a bit tangential, but in the comments to the MSI 7800GTX review you provided a link to the demo you used for running the BF2 benchmarks. I gave it a quick try and it wouldn't run for me (game exits to desktop). I was wondering what verion of the game were these made for, the original unpatched game, perhaps? I was trying the demo with a game patched to v1.02.
Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks. It's no big deal, of course; I just like fooling around with this kind of stuff. (But not enough to reinstall the game without the patch. ;-) )
I think it was unfairly downplayed to factory OC on the memory being the only advantage. So not true. The fact that you can get a hold of a support rep in the middle of the night, seven days a week, is a pretty big deal. Than the fact that the card comes bundled with othe stuff, like free utilities and a pack of teflon slick pads was omitted. Those present a value to the gamer as well. The t-shit, although oversized (XL) is actually a nice touch, free advertising or not. Another thing - the card I purchased did come bundled with a game. Granted, it was Far Cry, fairly old compared to BF2 and even Riddick, never the less, it was in the box.
I don't have enough time to read this as thoroughly as I would like, but did the article happen to mention BFG's lifetime warranty (which I personally think is worth more than any game bundle)? I would go with the BFG myself.
It's mentioned on the last page, along with the fact that EVGA now offers the same lifetime warranty. I can't personally vouch for the quality of either, having never used their tech support, but I've heard they're both good.
I would really love to see a Leadtek 7800 GTX review...and an Asus one for that matter...I am going to be buying a new system soon and I am hard pressed to choose between Asus/Leadtek/BFG?
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PeteRoy - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
Anandtech reviewing vendors 7800 GTX looks like a way to get a freebie 7800 GTX to every Anandtech editor,
But I admit it's interesting to see what each vendor brings with the board, to see what games, what box and cooler.
Scotty - Friday, August 5, 2005 - link
In the hardware reviews, there is the shootout from Hexus. They remove the heat sinks to show the card and chips. I would like to see/know how well this card would accept a water block to integrate a dual 7800 setup into my current water cooling system. I am running a triple monitor system and this card makes this quite a bit easier to do than the the 6600 cards. Obviously I can not run this in SLI mode with three displays.Backslider - Friday, August 5, 2005 - link
I have to disagree with the article.BFG 7800 OC wo/game = $525
MSI 7800 w/game = $475
The whole whopping 1% faster then, doesn't account for $50 plus a $40 game, at lease not to my wallet. I mean give me a break already, the card was like 1 FPS faster give or take a half of frame! But, ooooohhhh its "Over clocked" and I guess you get a cookie for that?
Then again, if your buying a graphics card this expensive, I'm sure you have the money to go out and buy all the games you want anyhow. Even then the benchmarks were just not impressive at all (realitive to 7800 vs. 7800).
darksparkz - Friday, August 5, 2005 - link
I think, on the next review you should have the 7800GTXs stock speeds AND the 7800GTXs speeds that are OC to the exact same speed. It's harder to compare which is better because of the clock speeds.If you have eVGA, BFG, and etc. all at the same clock speeds, we'll truely be able to compare which is better
JarredWalton - Friday, August 5, 2005 - link
I believe the whole point is that there is *NO* difference between any of the current 7800GTX cards if they are clocked the same. Minor differences in fan speed seem to be the major influence right now.Some Body - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
EVGA have released a new 7800GTX...7800GTX KO edition (with and without BF2). Core at 490MHz, Memory at 1.3GHz.
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=256-P...">EVGA 7800GTX KO Edition w/ Battlefield 2
(Also note that they've dropped prices on their 'regular' 7800GTX)
GuniGuGu - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
I love this website, it's my favorite hardware site, but I really have to ask, do we really need reviews of the same hardware?A quick overview, is the most thats really needed.
Really, Anand was talking about the 4fps difference between the games in 4xAA as actually a deciding factor??? It's 4fps guys!!
In all honesty, the only think people should look at, so long as the core/memory speeds are in-line, is the package and cooling used.
And by the looks of it, they are all folowing the same cooling options, so I would just like at the package (vivo?/cables/games) and choose from there.
Because in all seriousness, they are all the same.
at80eighty - Friday, August 5, 2005 - link
true. However - what do you suggest? that AT reviews ATI's enviously large range of cards that they have existing at your local tech store?GuniGuGu - Friday, August 5, 2005 - link
Perhaps, disregarg the entire video card section altogether, until there is something, actually worth talking about...We all know that the GTX is the fastest card on the market, but the article could've been summed up in a few lines. "The card is oc, it cost a bit more, and doesn't offer any real extra performance, much like all other GTX's"
There's always new hardware coming out.. AT doesn;t have to review the same video card 3 times ya know...
GuniGuGu - Friday, August 5, 2005 - link
Or he could brake NDA and review a 7700 gt :)I'm in the process of buying a new machine, everything new, and i'm contemplating waiting on a 7700gt, because of the price it may sell for, and how it may overclock/unlock..
But I'm also extremly pissedd off at ATi for taking so damn long... they've basically lost my sale (if the product could've proved to have been better that is).
Spacecomber - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
Hey Derek, this is a bit tangential, but in the comments to the MSI 7800GTX review you provided a link to the demo you used for running the BF2 benchmarks. I gave it a quick try and it wouldn't run for me (game exits to desktop). I was wondering what verion of the game were these made for, the original unpatched game, perhaps? I was trying the demo with a game patched to v1.02.Thanks,
Space
DerekWilson - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
Only works on 1.0We may consider looking at demos for the 1.02 (or later) version.
Thanks,
Derek Wilson
Spacecomber - Friday, August 5, 2005 - link
Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks. It's no big deal, of course; I just like fooling around with this kind of stuff. (But not enough to reinstall the game without the patch. ;-) )Space
allnighter - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
I think it was unfairly downplayed to factory OC on the memory being the only advantage. So not true. The fact that you can get a hold of a support rep in the middle of the night, seven days a week, is a pretty big deal. Than the fact that the card comes bundled with othe stuff, like free utilities and a pack of teflon slick pads was omitted. Those present a value to the gamer as well. The t-shit, although oversized (XL) is actually a nice touch, free advertising or not. Another thing - the card I purchased did come bundled with a game. Granted, it was Far Cry, fairly old compared to BF2 and even Riddick, never the less, it was in the box.allnighter - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
OMG, I really need to use the spell check before I post. Would you kindly help me out with that?BaronVonAwesome - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
I don't have enough time to read this as thoroughly as I would like, but did the article happen to mention BFG's lifetime warranty (which I personally think is worth more than any game bundle)? I would go with the BFG myself.JarredWalton - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
It's mentioned on the last page, along with the fact that EVGA now offers the same lifetime warranty. I can't personally vouch for the quality of either, having never used their tech support, but I've heard they're both good.Son of a N00b - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
there is a small typo on the OC'ing page... ge t should be get...lolNice article...very complete
Good Job...I myself have had awesome experiences with BFG, not to mention their tech support, RMA support, and life time warrenty...
So when I get my 7800's I will be going BFG.
DVad3r - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
I would really love to see a Leadtek 7800 GTX review...and an Asus one for that matter...I am going to be buying a new system soon and I am hard pressed to choose between Asus/Leadtek/BFG?CtK - Thursday, August 4, 2005 - link
Its about time :)