Up to Quadro RTX 4000, if you want current-gen. On that card, you get a TU104 with 8 GB, and pricing is about $900, IIRC. So, it's like a down-clocked RTX 2070 Super.
The other thing about Quadro cards is their power connectors are on the short edge. So, you can fit them in a 3U case, without having to use a riser.
occasional mid-range single slot cards show up from tier 2 vendors. They're rare though because a single slot blower pushing 100W is obnoxiously loud.
At only 45W Matrox's cards are a more reasonable TDP for the cooling; and will probably be stuffed away in a network closet instead of being next to a users desk.
Lots of us miss them. Sure the TDP can't go as high before noise gets out of hand, but it stinks giving up two or three expansion slots on a mATX build (or finding room for a giant GPU card in an ITX case) with the only other option being something like a GT 1030 or iGPU.
P1000 is also single slot, as well as P2000. Both are almost 3 years old now, and are widely available, e.g. from PNY. P1000 is 45W with 4x mDP, P2000 is 75W with 4x DP.
How is this Matrox D-series different? D-1480 with its 4GB looks like a P1000 in a P2000 packaging (full-height PCB with full-size DPs and bigger cooler).
But where you a mere 'S3 Trio' kinda person, or where people trowing themselves before you, knowing you where rocking the "Diamond Stealth 3D 4000 S3-ViRGE GX2 AGP" ? Pretty sure it did about 5 fps more on Decent / Doom II / Red Alert @ 640x480'ish. Word.
Thanks for the link, it was interesting to read the review. It was about the time the Parhelia cards were introduced that I moved over to a Radeon card. I vaguely remember it was a "bang for the buck" issue. The card didn't have a lot of bang but cost a lot of bucks compared with the competition.
Back in the early and mid 90s, I used to use Matrox graphics cards in my builds (back when they produced cards for the consumer market). Glad to hear they're still around, since many of the hardware and software makers have either folded or been acquired and merged. The rise in gaming and video graphics seem to have been a challenge for them in the face of cards from 3Dfx, ATI, and Nvidia and they weren't competitive with their products.
The MGA-G200 core is still a part of many server iBMCs active today.
Whether you can use its once-vaunted hardware acceleration features is another matter; Linux kernel-mode switching display drivers don't support that bit, and in fact even scrolling the console locked up a core of my CPU (admittedly, on 1280x1024 with tiny fonts). Seeing as it's mostly pushing bits around memory, it got a lot faster once I reduced to 8-bit colour (video=1280x1024R-8@75 TERM=putty-256color).
They couldn't keep up with nVidia and ATI in 3D performance, but they used to be the card of choice for graphics artists because they used higher quality RAMDACs in their cards, which made for better image quality on VGA connections.
It looks like the co-founder Lorne Trottier bought back full ownership of the company. There are two underserved niches he could invest in: video cards with built-in KVM and VNC support for servers, and systems to support full-sized video walls for the coming generation of full-wall OLED and MiniLED displays inside homes (think the original Total Recall movie).
When I worked in a big bank I seem to remember the big boxes on the trading floor had Matrox display cards - they were targeting enterprise market for multi-monitor (say 4-6 screen) set-ups. Presumably this is similar to technically to video wall stuff..
I'm partial here and I will thread gently to avoid breaching a couple of NDA's. I bought the first (as in 1) video editing from Matrox in the early 1990's. It worked as all .80 software based system at the edge of their niche, in this case Linear Editor worked: Excellent when it did. It was a National Film Board request, aimed at the CBC that for reasons unknown prefered an USA solution costing 3-5 times as much. Then, it was hard to justify a 50K$ technician working on a 25K$ cube. Then came the absurdity of Quebec politics. Lorne steppep into the 95 referendum and the company became an outcast. During that period due to pure stupidity, Quebec lost the edge it had in graphics, Matrox, sound card Adlib and a couple smaller players. Then the two founders warred between them and the well known Quebec model of having the government get between the beligerents and brokered a peace treaty wsa not apply. But while it abandonned hardware, Quebec won big on the video game industry. We could have done both,
The failure of the Matrox Parhelia had nothing to do with Quebec politics and everything to do with Matrox making poor decisions and poor management. At least I assume Matrox Graphics was as dysfunctional as Matrox Imaging was when I worked there.
I think all I remember of Adlib was that most Sound Blaster cards had Adlib compatibility. I guess Adlib was a bit before my time (I think it was FM Synthesis-only - no PCM?).
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domboy - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
A single slot video card!! I miss those...jeremyshaw - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
A lot of those still exist in the professional market, but are priced to the high moon.BoemlauweBas - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
QUADRO P2000 / P4000 come to mind.RU482 - Friday, January 31, 2020 - link
47W....more like P1000mode_13h - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
Up to Quadro RTX 4000, if you want current-gen. On that card, you get a TU104 with 8 GB, and pricing is about $900, IIRC. So, it's like a down-clocked RTX 2070 Super.The other thing about Quadro cards is their power connectors are on the short edge. So, you can fit them in a 3U case, without having to use a riser.
DanNeely - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
occasional mid-range single slot cards show up from tier 2 vendors. They're rare though because a single slot blower pushing 100W is obnoxiously loud.At only 45W Matrox's cards are a more reasonable TDP for the cooling; and will probably be stuffed away in a network closet instead of being next to a users desk.
PeachNCream - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
Lots of us miss them. Sure the TDP can't go as high before noise gets out of hand, but it stinks giving up two or three expansion slots on a mATX build (or finding room for a giant GPU card in an ITX case) with the only other option being something like a GT 1030 or iGPU.bolkhov - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
P1000 is also single slot, as well as P2000.Both are almost 3 years old now, and are widely available, e.g. from PNY.
P1000 is 45W with 4x mDP, P2000 is 75W with 4x DP.
How is this Matrox D-series different?
D-1480 with its 4GB looks like a P1000 in a P2000 packaging (full-height PCB with full-size DPs and bigger cooler).
nicolaim - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
Typo: resolujtionsjbounds - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
It's Swedish. :)Samus - Sunday, February 2, 2020 - link
Resolujtions, a new file organizer from IKEA.Hardware Geek - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
"Matrox’s D1450 and D1480 graphics cards will be available sometimes in the second quarter."Sometimes they will be available, sometimes they won't be available... Actually that's probably accurate. Nevermind
tipoo - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
They live! I'm still a bit sad the S3 graphics website finally went down, lolBoemlauweBas - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
But where you a mere 'S3 Trio' kinda person, or where people trowing themselves before you, knowing you where rocking the "Diamond Stealth 3D 4000 S3-ViRGE GX2 AGP" ? Pretty sure it did about 5 fps more on Decent / Doom II / Red Alert @ 640x480'ish. Word.mode_13h - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
S3 lives on, in some form. VIA owned them and is using them in the new Zhaoxin CPUs. I gather they sold off the branding to HTC, though.Jon Tseng - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
One from the archives! https://www.anandtech.com/show/911jrbales@outlook.com - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
Thanks for the link, it was interesting to read the review. It was about the time the Parhelia cards were introduced that I moved over to a Radeon card. I vaguely remember it was a "bang for the buck" issue. The card didn't have a lot of bang but cost a lot of bucks compared with the competition.mode_13h - Wednesday, February 5, 2020 - link
Dang, I used to have a Tseng graphics card!jrbales@outlook.com - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
Back in the early and mid 90s, I used to use Matrox graphics cards in my builds (back when they produced cards for the consumer market). Glad to hear they're still around, since many of the hardware and software makers have either folded or been acquired and merged. The rise in gaming and video graphics seem to have been a challenge for them in the face of cards from 3Dfx, ATI, and Nvidia and they weren't competitive with their products.GreenReaper - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
The MGA-G200 core is still a part of many server iBMCs active today.Whether you can use its once-vaunted hardware acceleration features is another matter; Linux kernel-mode switching display drivers don't support that bit, and in fact even scrolling the console locked up a core of my CPU (admittedly, on 1280x1024 with tiny fonts). Seeing as it's mostly pushing bits around memory, it got a lot faster once I reduced to 8-bit colour (video=1280x1024R-8@75 TERM=putty-256color).
mode_13h - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
Matrox Millennium were awesome 2D cards.fazalmajid - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
They couldn't keep up with nVidia and ATI in 3D performance, but they used to be the card of choice for graphics artists because they used higher quality RAMDACs in their cards, which made for better image quality on VGA connections.It looks like the co-founder Lorne Trottier bought back full ownership of the company. There are two underserved niches he could invest in: video cards with built-in KVM and VNC support for servers, and systems to support full-sized video walls for the coming generation of full-wall OLED and MiniLED displays inside homes (think the original Total Recall movie).
Jon Tseng - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
When I worked in a big bank I seem to remember the big boxes on the trading floor had Matrox display cards - they were targeting enterprise market for multi-monitor (say 4-6 screen) set-ups. Presumably this is similar to technically to video wall stuff..mode_13h - Wednesday, February 5, 2020 - link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tseng_Labsbourbononthebow - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
so they're re-badged Quadro P2000s with worse drivers. Great.jydurocher - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
I'm partial here and I will thread gently to avoid breaching a couple of NDA's.I bought the first (as in 1) video editing from Matrox in the early 1990's. It worked as all .80 software based system at the edge of their niche, in this case Linear Editor worked: Excellent when it did.
It was a National Film Board request, aimed at the CBC that for reasons unknown prefered an USA solution costing 3-5 times as much. Then, it was hard to justify a 50K$ technician working on a 25K$ cube.
Then came the absurdity of Quebec politics. Lorne steppep into the 95 referendum and the company became an outcast. During that period due to pure stupidity, Quebec lost the edge it had in graphics, Matrox, sound card Adlib and a couple smaller players.
Then the two founders warred between them and the well known Quebec model of having the government get between the beligerents and brokered a peace treaty wsa not apply.
But while it abandonned hardware, Quebec won big on the video game industry. We could have done both,
Guspaz - Monday, February 3, 2020 - link
The failure of the Matrox Parhelia had nothing to do with Quebec politics and everything to do with Matrox making poor decisions and poor management. At least I assume Matrox Graphics was as dysfunctional as Matrox Imaging was when I worked there.mode_13h - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
Damn. Adlib was Canadian? I didn't know that.I think all I remember of Adlib was that most Sound Blaster cards had Adlib compatibility. I guess Adlib was a bit before my time (I think it was FM Synthesis-only - no PCM?).
mode_13h - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
Nvidia already seems to have a range of establish solutions addressing video wall applications:https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/...
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/...
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/...
Exactly how is Matrox going to compete?