Because people interested in 22" 4K OLED displays and people interested in 55" 4K LCD displays with a ton of inputs and outputs are basically looking for the same thing.
Point is, ASUS could have taken a OLED TV panel from LG than a limited volume 22 inch OLED screen. However, this product is intriguing. These signage displays, most, if not all, are simply TVs from known brands. I guess this is to sell to organizations that exclusively buy NEC products.
The cheap ones are used for fast food restaurant menus, airports and other places where picture quality isn't that important.
The high end ones like this are likely used for corporate video conference rooms like the ones in my office. Or I can see them being used at design firms to show a large scale display of whatever they're working on (advertising/commercials, photography/video/animation studios, game development, etc.). Colleges and medical establishments are switching to high end monitors. There's a time and place for high end 22" 4k OLED screens (MRI technician looking at a scan) and then there's a time and place for a high end 55" OLED screen (same MRI tech showing results to the patient).
OLED is being looked at but right now no vendor has adopted them due to burn in issues.
Barcos are exceptional displays but they leverage their own special panels and their latest is a 4200 x 2800 custom setup fed by dual DP 1.2 cables. Maximum brightness is 2000 nits which I wholely believe after using several in person. The reason for their insane brightness is that they expect doctors to put Xrays up against the display and they need the extra light to shine through the film.
And Maserati could have taken the engine and chassis from a Volkswagen Beetle and offered a 30k car instead of a 300k one. Your point does not make any sense.
More than likely these panels don't fulfill their requirements for gamut, color accuracy, sharpness, pixel pitch, contrast, uniformity, or any other of the host of criteria that need to be nigh-on perfect for a video production-grade monitor. And the cost of a controller capable of handling a 14-bit LUT in real-time without adding noticeable latency. Not to mention the added difficulty of producing all of this on a much smaller scale, and the dramatically increased degree of quality control in pro monitors compared to TVs.
Yes. These are basically TVs with better inputs, quality control, and that cooling system. Organizations, with various NEC products, can now buy TVs or displays branded with NEC.
Is this at all compelling? What does it give you that a TV won't give at half the price?
Sure sure, supposedly it won't overheat. Is that a real problem with modern TVs? Even my ten year old cheapo-brand TV doesn't overheat.
When I saw the headline I was excited about this as a TV replacement sans "Smart TV" crap. But this seems way too expensive for the quality of what's being offered.
The weird thing about that on this model though is that Pis can't do 4K. They can only output 1080p, so until a Pi 4 based compute module comes out that capability will be underutilized at best.
Pi can do 4k @ 15Hz without much issue (1080p60 bandwidth ~ 4k@15, 4 times the pixels, quarter the refresh rate). And considering most ad display things I see at McDonalds and train stations run their menus and ads at sub 10fps (which always looks soooo cheap and amateurish), it could be enough for a lot of things.
Well I suppose when you're upgrading from printed posterboard that has an update rate of at most only a few frames/day (and a lot less if they don't have a breakfast menu) your standard for what's a solid upgrade is a lot more flexible.
The nice thing about an OPS slot is that you can you can put in more than just a Raspberry Pi: full fledged PCs, SDI input modules (surprisingly handy if they have loop outputs), HDBaseT input modules, and various AV-over-IP modules leveraging up to 10 Gbit Ethernet. I've even heard talk of some manufacturers leveraging the OPS slot to add things like conference systems, room controllers and other oddities. It is nice to have an option to install these feature into the display as it really reduces cable clutter and device management. The downside its that you have the mess of USB ports that have nuance to what they can interface with.
Only if you're looking for a big screen. Those expensive displays have much faster refresh rates and local dimming, critical features that this display lacks.
Am looking for a big screen to replace my 40 incher indeed. Problem is 65" of the bfgd is a couple inches to big for the cutout I have in the wall. 55 or 60 would fit perfectly. Other problem is. 3-5k is simply more than I am willing to pay. Maybe the Alienware will deliver. Or maybe hdmi 2.1 equipped TVs with low latency modes and VRR.
The sensor can identify humans and thereby sort out who among us are Cylons. Once it identifies humans, it fires buckets of cliche lines and fake profanity off at those that are not in order to defeat them over the course of several television seasons.
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Duncan Macdonald - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
This looks far better value than the ASUS PQ22UC monitor featured a few days ago.Death666Angel - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
Because people interested in 22" 4K OLED displays and people interested in 55" 4K LCD displays with a ton of inputs and outputs are basically looking for the same thing.zodiacfml - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
Point is, ASUS could have taken a OLED TV panel from LG than a limited volume 22 inch OLED screen.However, this product is intriguing. These signage displays, most, if not all, are simply TVs from known brands. I guess this is to sell to organizations that exclusively buy NEC products.
Kakti - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
smh...ASUS has a whole line of commercial signage monitors from 42" to at least 55".Check out https://www.asus.com/Commercial-Signage/AllProduct...
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Kakti - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
The cheap ones are used for fast food restaurant menus, airports and other places where picture quality isn't that important.The high end ones like this are likely used for corporate video conference rooms like the ones in my office. Or I can see them being used at design firms to show a large scale display of whatever they're working on (advertising/commercials, photography/video/animation studios, game development, etc.). Colleges and medical establishments are switching to high end monitors. There's a time and place for high end 22" 4k OLED screens (MRI technician looking at a scan) and then there's a time and place for a high end 55" OLED screen (same MRI tech showing results to the patient).
Hubb1e - Thursday, March 28, 2019 - link
There are special medical grade displays that focus on grayscale in order to ensure that you can see all of the gradients in the scan.lilkwarrior - Friday, March 29, 2019 - link
Those medical grade displays are significantly ideally OLED monitors.Kevin G - Friday, March 29, 2019 - link
OLED is being looked at but right now no vendor has adopted them due to burn in issues.Barcos are exceptional displays but they leverage their own special panels and their latest is a 4200 x 2800 custom setup fed by dual DP 1.2 cables. Maximum brightness is 2000 nits which I wholely believe after using several in person. The reason for their insane brightness is that they expect doctors to put Xrays up against the display and they need the extra light to shine through the film.
Death666Angel - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
And Maserati could have taken the engine and chassis from a Volkswagen Beetle and offered a 30k car instead of a 300k one. Your point does not make any sense.Valantar - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
More than likely these panels don't fulfill their requirements for gamut, color accuracy, sharpness, pixel pitch, contrast, uniformity, or any other of the host of criteria that need to be nigh-on perfect for a video production-grade monitor. And the cost of a controller capable of handling a 14-bit LUT in real-time without adding noticeable latency. Not to mention the added difficulty of producing all of this on a much smaller scale, and the dramatically increased degree of quality control in pro monitors compared to TVs.Dug - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
But you haven't seen or tested one yet.And what 55" 4k display does what you say and run 24x7 with the specs of this monitor?
zodiacfml - Thursday, March 28, 2019 - link
Yes. These are basically TVs with better inputs, quality control, and that cooling system. Organizations, with various NEC products, can now buy TVs or displays branded with NEC.name99 - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
Is this at all compelling? What does it give you that a TV won't give at half the price?Sure sure, supposedly it won't overheat. Is that a real problem with modern TVs? Even my ten year old cheapo-brand TV doesn't overheat.
When I saw the headline I was excited about this as a TV replacement sans "Smart TV" crap. But this seems way too expensive for the quality of what's being offered.
remosito - Thursday, March 28, 2019 - link
Link me 3 TVs with displayport inputs for half the price.lilkwarrior - Friday, March 29, 2019 - link
Uh… not the same thing at all. Does this have the color accuracy & color contrast of the PQ22UC or a standardized 3D LUT table? Heck no.Pinn - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
DP in large screen is rare. Good for 4:4:4 HDR 4k.lilkwarrior - Friday, March 29, 2019 - link
You still need HDMI 2.1 or dual Display 1.4+ use for optimal 4K w/o chrome upsampling in most casesSSNSeawolf - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
The slot for a Raspberry Pi compute module is an excellent idea for standalone signage and a host of other basic display/video purposes.wolrah - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
The weird thing about that on this model though is that Pis can't do 4K. They can only output 1080p, so until a Pi 4 based compute module comes out that capability will be underutilized at best.Death666Angel - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
Pi can do 4k @ 15Hz without much issue (1080p60 bandwidth ~ 4k@15, 4 times the pixels, quarter the refresh rate). And considering most ad display things I see at McDonalds and train stations run their menus and ads at sub 10fps (which always looks soooo cheap and amateurish), it could be enough for a lot of things.DanNeely - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
Well I suppose when you're upgrading from printed posterboard that has an update rate of at most only a few frames/day (and a lot less if they don't have a breakfast menu) your standard for what's a solid upgrade is a lot more flexible.Death666Angel - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
Will anything you post make any sense, at all, ever?Kevin G - Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - link
The nice thing about an OPS slot is that you can you can put in more than just a Raspberry Pi: full fledged PCs, SDI input modules (surprisingly handy if they have loop outputs), HDBaseT input modules, and various AV-over-IP modules leveraging up to 10 Gbit Ethernet. I've even heard talk of some manufacturers leveraging the OPS slot to add things like conference systems, room controllers and other oddities. It is nice to have an option to install these feature into the display as it really reduces cable clutter and device management. The downside its that you have the mess of USB ports that have nuance to what they can interface with.Lord of the Bored - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
That is SUPER hot and I need one now.So, ummm... anyone have two grand they can loan me?
remosito - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
That is amazingly non-expensive. How I wish it had Adaptive Sync though...I guess a worthwile 55" fallback if the upcoming alienware 55 incher is bfgd bank breaking league (3000- 5000$).
Gunbuster - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
Indeed. Priced nearly at the point where you would not buy the walmart tv and if it breaks buy the walmart TV 7 more times in a row.niva - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
Only if you're looking for a big screen. Those expensive displays have much faster refresh rates and local dimming, critical features that this display lacks.remosito - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
Am looking for a big screen to replace my 40 incher indeed. Problem is 65" of the bfgd is a couple inches to big for the cutout I have in the wall. 55 or 60 would fit perfectly. Other problem is. 3-5k is simply more than I am willing to pay. Maybe the Alienware will deliver. Or maybe hdmi 2.1 equipped TVs with low latency modes and VRR.lilkwarrior - Friday, March 29, 2019 - link
Alienware could be $3000 and it'll be a no-brainer significantly better monitor than this one to justify its price- OLED
- HDMI 2.1
- Dolby Vision HDR
- G-Sync, FreeSync, or HDMI 2.1 VRR
ToTTenTranz - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
What's a "human sensor"?dropme - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
It's a sensor that detects human. It's useful when you have to show certain video when a person comes and watch the signage.PeachNCream - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
The sensor can identify humans and thereby sort out who among us are Cylons. Once it identifies humans, it fires buckets of cliche lines and fake profanity off at those that are not in order to defeat them over the course of several television seasons.Hubb1e - Thursday, March 28, 2019 - link
It is a power saving feature. If nobody is around the display will turn off.dropme - Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - link
I wonder what manufacturer did they choose for panel? Japan display seems likable.