Heh, decided to drop the pretense and just cut straight to the troll?
Anyway, as cool as it would be to have an authentic Zeon motherboard, the Principality of Zeon won't be founded (or at least declare independence) for another 161 years.
Well the only real advantage to testing with ECC is to see if it catches errors. How would you go about simulating errors?
If ECC RAM is rated at x MHz, and it runs at x MHz, then it’s good. I don’t think this board has real support for overclocking, so why worry about it?
Feature-wise, the whole X11SCA line is a bit scarce compared to its predecessor X11SAE: less slots, less USB ports, much I/O sharing (X11SAE* shared nothing). And no mATX variant (X11SAE-M was a little gem!).
Even consumer-grade C9Z390-CGW has a reacher feature set, despite being cheaper.
X11SCA* line is a bit disappointing, to put it mildly.
I love Supermicro for mission critical stability and long life. Wish I knew about these before but my 8086k/Q370 in the CSE-512f-410B 1U is loud and stable.
Mine came with Rice Chips which are higher quality than Spy chips.
Yes, incompatibility between C236 and Coffee Lake is a problem (I even tried i5-8500 on X11SAE-F ("what if?") -- no go: BMC works, but CPU doesn't start).
To be honest, the x11sae-F isn't ideal: it has some glitches and stability problems. But BMC-less X11SAE and its predecessor X10SAE are ideal for workstation use.
If only Supermicro could create an adequate X11SAE successor (not a cut-down one like X11SCA), that could be an ideal mobo for CFL.
As to ASRock Rack: some models look interesting, but those are hard to get in my organization (a government scientific institution). So, now the most feature-rich Xeon E mobo is Asus C246 PRO.
Thanks. I knew about HSW, SKL, KNL, and KBL. In the right context, I'd have figured that, but I was thinking it was some reference to what you were using it for.
So, what's Coffee Lake Refresh? CLR? Or do they still call it CFL?
I’ve got a pair of ASRock Rack workstation boards. H97m WS & Z97m WS. Haven’t even opned the Z97 as it’s a spare that’s 4 years old and time to give th H97 a break. I’m trying to get a buyer to come down from 400 bucks for another new H97.
These boards just run my niche apps so well I don’t want to upgrade. I get paid to performer so these boards get beat up as much as the storage devices that never hit idle. Bought a C246 with 1275G but my finicky apps aren’t liking the drivers so back to the old reliabl Z /H 7s.
Noticed the manufacturer stated within the specifications of this board that via bios update, it will support 128gb of memory. its expected in 2019, but my question is has anyone tested a 9900k with this board? lets go beyond the why, but thinking multipurpose rig.
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Walkeer - Monday, November 19, 2018 - link
is this the one with the spy chip from china?HStewart - Monday, November 19, 2018 - link
No these contain Intel Zeon's. I believe the chips from China were made with AMD help.mode_13h - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
Heh, decided to drop the pretense and just cut straight to the troll?Anyway, as cool as it would be to have an authentic Zeon motherboard, the Principality of Zeon won't be founded (or at least declare independence) for another 161 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Suit_Gundam
sa666666 - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
Yes, he's no longer using the passive-aggressive approach. Revealed as the troll he truly is.Yongzhi - Monday, November 19, 2018 - link
Spy chip? What?Yongzhi - Monday, November 19, 2018 - link
Wait! Spy chip from China? Can you give me more details about it?mode_13h - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
He's referring to this:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04...
Yongzhi - Sunday, December 2, 2018 - link
thxzirk65 - Monday, November 19, 2018 - link
Any info on IOMMU Groups for this board? Could be a good platform to build a multi-function rig.Ashinjuka - Monday, November 19, 2018 - link
Loving that throwback look. Remember when all motherboards looked like this before the current OMGwtfRGB!!1! nonsense took over?"Gamers." 🙄
mode_13h - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
Gah! What's the point in using/testing this without ECC RAM?bill.rookard - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
Well the only real advantage to testing with ECC is to see if it catches errors. How would you go about simulating errors?If ECC RAM is rated at x MHz, and it runs at x MHz, then it’s good. I don’t think this board has real support for overclocking, so why worry about it?
mode_13h - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
ECC places an extra burden on the CPU's IMC. I don't expect it would have a noticeable impact on performance, but why not benchmark it & find out?bolkhov - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
Feature-wise, the whole X11SCA line is a bit scarce compared to its predecessor X11SAE: less slots, less USB ports, much I/O sharing (X11SAE* shared nothing).And no mATX variant (X11SAE-M was a little gem!).
Even consumer-grade C9Z390-CGW has a reacher feature set, despite being cheaper.
X11SCA* line is a bit disappointing, to put it mildly.
dsplover - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
I love Supermicro for mission critical stability and long life. Wish I knew about these before but my 8086k/Q370 in the CSE-512f-410B 1U is loud and stable.Mine came with Rice Chips which are higher quality than Spy chips.
mode_13h - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
You mean "sparse"? "spare"?As you probably know, the X11SAE only supports Skylake and Kaby Lake.
I used to run Supermicro, but more recently switched to ASRock Rack. So far, so good.
bolkhov - Wednesday, November 21, 2018 - link
I meant "poor", but tried to be more polite.Yes, incompatibility between C236 and Coffee Lake is a problem (I even tried i5-8500 on X11SAE-F ("what if?") -- no go: BMC works, but CPU doesn't start).
To be honest, the x11sae-F isn't ideal: it has some glitches and stability problems.
But BMC-less X11SAE and its predecessor X10SAE are ideal for workstation use.
If only Supermicro could create an adequate X11SAE successor (not a cut-down one like X11SCA), that could be an ideal mobo for CFL.
As to ASRock Rack: some models look interesting, but those are hard to get in my organization (a government scientific institution).
So, now the most feature-rich Xeon E mobo is Asus C246 PRO.
mode_13h - Wednesday, November 21, 2018 - link
Sorry, what do you mean by "CFL"?bolkhov - Wednesday, November 21, 2018 - link
"CFL" is Intel's abbreviation for Coffee Lake (similarly KBL is Kaby Lake, SKL=Skylake, BDW=Broadwell, HSW=Haswell, KNL=Knight's Landing, etc.)mode_13h - Friday, November 23, 2018 - link
Thanks. I knew about HSW, SKL, KNL, and KBL. In the right context, I'd have figured that, but I was thinking it was some reference to what you were using it for.So, what's Coffee Lake Refresh? CLR? Or do they still call it CFL?
bolkhov - Saturday, November 24, 2018 - link
CFL-Rmode_13h - Wednesday, November 21, 2018 - link
Anyway, I'm holding back at least until I can get an 8-core Coffee Lake Refresh as a Xeon E.dsplover - Wednesday, November 21, 2018 - link
I’ve got a pair of ASRock Rack workstation boards.H97m WS & Z97m WS.
Haven’t even opned the Z97 as it’s a spare that’s 4 years old and time to give th H97 a break.
I’m trying to get a buyer to come down from 400 bucks for another new H97.
These boards just run my niche apps so well I don’t want to upgrade.
I get paid to performer so these boards get beat up as much as the storage devices that never hit idle.
Bought a C246 with 1275G but my finicky apps aren’t liking the drivers so back to the old reliabl Z /H 7s.
El Sama - Friday, November 23, 2018 - link
VRM Phases? VRM Cooling?plonk420 - Monday, November 26, 2018 - link
RTFALord 666 - Sunday, November 25, 2018 - link
Noticed the manufacturer stated within the specifications of this board that via bios update, it will support 128gb of memory. its expected in 2019, but my question is has anyone tested a 9900k with this board? lets go beyond the why, but thinking multipurpose rig.