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  • Gunbuster - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Monoprice, i'm looking at you. figure out what ODM builds this and get in on the action.
  • Death666Angel - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Give me the 40 ~ 43" version of this with a 1080p/120Hz mode, please.
  • Taracta - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Yes, without the Sony 830C being on sale anymore there in no 4K TVs lower that 55" with native 1080p/120Hz. Fortunately it seems that Sony is going to release the 900E at 50" with native 1080p/120Hz.
  • Gothmoth - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    curved is dead....
  • xthetenth - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    For monitors you could not be any more wrong. Curves are essential to using a monitor that large at customary distances because on a flat screen the corners are at a very different angle to the user than the middle is.
  • ayqazi - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    I'm torn.... I probably want curved when using it as a monitor, but certainly do not want curved when I'm sitting back on my sofa watching movies, which is a good 2-3 metres away.

    I think I'd prefer non-curved, since a non-curved is still usable as a PC monitor, whereas a curved 42" TV from about 2-3 metres away will just look like a squished screen, since I'm too far to make use of the curve effectively. I THINK, I may be wrong.
  • Murloc - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    most people out there watch movies with a TV in their living room and use the computer in the office.

    Also it depends on how aggressive the curvature is.
  • BrokenCrayons - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    For a monitor to require a curve due to size, I think the user at the keyboard has already gone pretty deeply into the realm of diminished returns for added screen area. It's more of a bragging rights thing and a low- to middle-class worker bee attempt to show status than a practical application of useful technology.
  • mjeffer - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    As someone who's used to using a triple monitor set up, I would absolutely love to replace all three with one of these. It would look a lot nicer, and give you the equivalent of one more screen of space. The fact that you can use multiple computers on this one monitor at the same time is a huge bonus to me too.
  • Samus - Saturday, February 18, 2017 - link

    I suppose neck strain from viewing large screens at a short distance means nothing to Gothmoth.
  • ATC9001 - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    I'm impressed....that's a huge screen with 4k and the ability to easily do 4 monitors/screens as well is great! I wonder if it's easy to switch it windows to go from 4 screens 1920x1080 to 1 at full 4k though?
  • smorebuds - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Hopefully it either has a remote that's not shown, or one of the buttons in the back is a dedicated input menu. Having to scroll thru multiple levels of menus each time would suck. Being able to quickly flip from 4 screen "productivity mode" to 1 screen to launch a game would be really nice. :D
  • Kamus - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    I'm sorry if i can't get too excited about this. Here's why:

    At the end of last year I bought a 40" 4K samsung TV for around $350 to use it has a monitor.

    It has a 10 bit panel. full Rec.709 color gamut support (which by the way, is 100% identical to sRGB, so I don't know what you mean by TVs having NTSC instead of sRGB)

    It also has a TV turner I'll never use, and an H.265 10 bit decoder at 60 FPS, which also does VP9 profile 2 at 10 bit and 60 FPS, along with smart TV features, which I do use a lot. (this would be like 120 dollars on a Roku box)

    It also has a VA panel, gets quite a bit more brighter than these monitors (around 430 nits), has HDR playback (using only the Rec.709 colorspace, but it looks amazing regardless, because even using just Rec.709 with added color volume results in much more vivid colors in HDR)

    It does not have freesync, and it also only does 60Hz and it's not curved, but it's a lot cheaper and more feature packed.

    If I use the TV as a monitor with a gamepad it's perfect. But if very close to it to use it as a PC monitor with mouse and keyboard, then it's a little too big... BUT!

    It's not a problem, because I can create a custom resolution to convert it to a budget 38" "ultrawide" monitor. And then it's just perfect (btw, the custom profile is 38", and the EXACT same resolution of the new LG ultrawide monitor that retails for 1600 bucks. Resolution ends up being 3840x1600)

    I'm not going to say there isn't value to this. But it's hard to get super excited about it either when you can get the similar product so much less.
  • Ian Cutress - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    All that and no model number?
  • dreamcat4 - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Sounds like the Samsung KU6400. In which case that's a 21ms response time... which is actually pretty darned low for current TVs. Which are completely laughable. However still not as low as these JapanNext @ 4ms. Is that a difference to matter enough in gaming to be worth it? Not sure.
  • Kamus - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    I think the 21ms are when in "game mode" which still allows for some processing.

    However, a firmware update turned "PC mode" (which has next to no processing) into a really low latency mode. I don't have measuring equipment, but it feels a hell of a lot lower than even "game mode".

    I wouldn't be surprised if the input lag is now on par with a monitor like that one when using PC mode. there are only 2 real drawbacks to this mode:

    There's no 3D LUT in this mode, so you have to cope with the native gamut, which actually isn't too bad. It does have some unwanted yellow and blue, but not nearly as bad as running a wide color gamut display with out a gamut profile.

    The other drawback to this mode, is that you can't strobe the backlight in this mode, which you also can't do under game mode by the way. Which sucks, because that does help a lot with how smooth games look at only 60hz.
  • Kamus - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Sorry about that. It's a 40" 4K 6 series. My particular model is the UN40KU6000FXZX.

    It's a Samsung VA panel on mine. on other sets you might see different panels, such as Sharp or others, they're all very similar though, with no big impact on performance.

    The problem for Samsung is that they source about 4 million panels a year from Sharp, but Sharp won't sell them a single more starting 2017 because they want to sell them on their own Televisions now.
  • geekman1024 - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    uhm... why the model with faster response time, smaller pixel pitch, higher PPI and lower active power consumption is priced cheaper than the more inferior one?
  • geekman1024 - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Ah...Never mind, it's the screen size. Didn't see that in the table.
  • jackpro - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Samsung KU6300 VA 4K 60hz Chroma 444 8bit is awesome as a desktop no freesynch though 40" to 65". 55" would be good as at 40" I have to run Win10 at 150% magnification
  • TEAMSWITCHER - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    I have the same Samsung display at 40". You can calculate the angular resolution at in PPD (Pixels Per Degree) --> Tan(.5) * 2 * 110.15 * 30 = 57.67. That's 57.67 pixels in one degree of angular measurement sitting 30" from the screen with 110.14 DPI. By Apple's definition that is a 40" 4K Retina Display. And I don't use any DPI scaling - running at 100%.

    Other sizes might work well...like the 42.5" Sony X800D and 48.5" Samsung KS8000, which are higher-quality TVs. But you'll have to push the display back another 2" and 6" respectively to keep the angular resolution above 57 PPD. You may have to buy a wall mount or VESA stand or a deeper desk. I think that a curved display would help mitigate the larger sizes, but 40" and 42.5" are OK even when the screen is flat.
  • BigDragon - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Response time, resolution, size, HDR features, and price make this a great product on paper. The rest of the monitor industry needs to catch up. There is absolutely no way I'm dropping $500+ on an outdated, and under-spec'ed PC monitor now. Acer, Asus, and Nvidia can keep dreaming. Their stuff is just looking more ridiculous each day.
  • Taracta - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Would really like reviews of some of these http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/pc-monit... by a you guys at Anandtech.
  • zodiacfml - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link

    Nice but eyeing for a 120Hz capable 4K screen.
  • Felcleave - Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - link

    Been doing a lot of research on this lately. With an EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid on order (nvidia is my choice and I'm not budging) I've decided as of this month on the Sung KS8500 line. Why?

    Let me count the whys!
    A) It's a dumber version of the 9000 line, less audio, slightly less hz rate, but still 240hz (100-120 actual so says most TV reviewers following the CMR divided by two rule of manufacturers)
    B) 120? don't whine! People achieved good FPS on screens that were "labeled" 120hz which by the law of halves was really more like 60hz - and they still did pretty good as gaming TV's.
    C) At this site, the KS8500 scores slightly better than both the 9000 and 9500 versions.
    http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ks8500
    D) All Samsung TV's in the 8000 and 9000 class (maybe 7000 or below? Idk) feature quad-core processors... which leads to my next point.
    E) For those older 2013-era TV's that don't... Samsung developed this sucka...
    http://www.samsung.com/uk/tv-accessories/evolution...
    which raises speculation. Since the HDMI 2.1 and DP equivalent standards that support adaptive sync still depend on the input source having VRR (someone correct me if i'm wrong here) so they are helping to provide the tech for the TV while mfg's produce VRR ready source devices. ?! I think. Why else make an upgraded box... aside from the extra features vs the one that is included in US TV models.
    F) I just read tonight that some top guy at Nvidia said that they might consider supporting Freesync if enough of the public wanted it. Well DUH all Nvidia 10 series cardholders want it, and people will want to upgrade to it if they can use that Samsung One Connect box to upgrade older TV's to have adaptive refresh.
    G) Because.... HDMI 2.1 specification announcement material.
    http://www.hdmi.org/press/press_kit.aspx
    H) Sung KS8000 / 9000 TV's might get 2.1 support via either firmware or their upgraded box, or both. OR they'll be stingy and release it on other TV's.
    I) Because quantum dot. And I can save $2000 not having QLED and upgrade to that when its one or two generations old.
    J) Because I think 4k will plateau, even though there is this chatter of 8k at 7680x4320 because WHAT HARDWARE WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT AND NOT CATCHING YOUR HOUSE ON FIRE!?? Yea. Quad SLI GTX 1200's or 1400's or whatever we will have by then, after you paid Nvidia for TWO unlock codes and a special order solid gold plated SLI bridge. Oh yea, or AMD's sad equivalent.
    K) Hm. Price for size.
  • Felcleave - Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - link

    L) also, I use an older Sung UN40FH6030 for graphic/web design, video editing, entertainment, PC and Xbox gaming and it handles Crysis, FarCry, Warframe and World of Tanks HD all on ultra settings at better than 50fps on my old GTX 670 FTW with a 15% OC and i5 3750k OC'd to 4500. So this TV does good with some gfx power behind it. With an input lag of 75ms maybe 60 when I optimized it? The 8000 line has an input lag of closer to:
    1080p @ 60Hz: 23.1 ms
    1080p With Interpolation: 130.4 ms
    1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode: 123.2 ms
    1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4: 39.5 ms
    4k @ 60Hz: 19.2 ms
    4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4: 33.4 ms
    4k @ 60Hz + HDR: 19.2 ms
    4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + HDR: 33.2 ms
    All what I consider very fair numbers - STOCK. Those will improve when both the TV and Input Source is optimized.
    Which makes me optimistic.
    http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/fh6030
  • Felcleave - Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - link

    Mybad... 3570k
  • remosito - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link

    > HDR Support not officially declared

    dealbreaker right there
  • praeses - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link

    Cut the panel in half horizontally for 3840x1080 and double the refresh rate to 120hz (same throughput pretty much) and even at the same price for half the panel area I'ld be game.
  • DaFanMan - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link

    If the 49" was available in the States for around $700-750 I'd 100% give one a try - on paper looks like a very compelling option. I was considering a KS8000 or KS8500 but would really like FreeSync even if it only provides a 15-20fps window that would still be super helpful. Sadly it doesn't seem like Amazon.co.jp or JapanNext ships to the US.
  • rocky12345 - Saturday, February 25, 2017 - link

    Sign me up where do I drop my money for the 55 inch curved unit? I currently game & watch movies on a 120 inch screen from DLP projector. I could get very used to going down to 55 inch curved 4K monitor for gaming and surfing only and still use the 120 inch for movies best of both worlds.

    Even if these are not top shelf units the price is right and the specs look decent enough for the price. Anandtech could you please do a review on these units if possible and run them through your tests?

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