The performance metrics are bandwidth and latency, power consumption would be in the efficiency department. This isn't any denser than other contemporary flash which will end up in SSDs, it still requires an additional controller, and keeping mind mind it is still flash, the only way to get lower power consumption is at the cost of performance.
The use case for this product is definitely NOT NAS. It is for cameras and stuff where its low performance wouldn't be a detrimental factor as long as it is enough for the particular application.
Last but not least, it will most likely cost many times its weight in gold.
Are you insinuating some sort of conspiracy? Since you are just describing how technical progress works in pretty much any industry. Nothing magic about it.
It works like this - hold off for as long as possible, charge as much as possible, the goal is not innovation, the goal is to make money by keeping progress a hostage.
The goal is not to support your claims, just say dumb shit and try to sound smart while doing it. I happen to have it on good authority that they're actually sitting on $10, 16TB micro SDHC cards (mind you, that's of Secure Digital Humongous Capacity type) but just refuse to put them on the market. They will conveniently show up sometime in the future when it's reasonable to expect such products at such prices and not a day before. Dirty capitalist bastards.
Talking about innovations kept under wraps, how's your 5.25" hard drive revolution doing? Are the big names still trying to keep you down?
You talk like 256 GBit dies and 32-high chip stacks would have been around for a long time. They were not, at least not with any prospect of affordable mass production.
Just waiting for a 20 slot, USB 3 card adapter to go with a bunch of them. Imagine a NAS which can be plugged into the USB port on a router that draws about 5 watts? 10 card JBOD in a RAID mirror. Might not be the fastest, but it would be 'fast enough' for a write-once-read-often type of storage like a media server.
It would be absurdly expensive though in terms of cost per GB. The 512GB version of this card sells for ~$350 on Amazon which means the street price of this 1TB card will certainly be over $500 and likely closer to $800 when it launches. You could buy an 8TB desktop external hard drive for $200 and run it for a lifetime before the cost of electricity offset the upfront cost of buying 8x 1TB SD cards. And if you wanted SSD storage, a 4TB Samsung 850 Evo in a USB 3 enclosure would be around $1500 (less than the cost of 3x 1TB SD cards) and would probably consume around the same amount of power as multiple SD cards in a giant multi-card adapter.
A few people had a similar ideas when large (128GB+) USB flash drives started hitting the market but the upfront cost is just too high for what you get both in terms of capacity and performance.
Oh man, it's nearly the end of SDXC! Remember when it first came out, and we finally had a means of getting cards higher than 32 GB?
I assume they'll reach the maximum of 2 TB in a couple years, and then will just kind of hold it there until the price comes down to a couple hundred dollars. Maybe they'll switch to UFS II or III by then.
There are a number of grammatical errors that should be corrected:
1) "this is the first time that a 1TB SDXC has been shown off in any capacity." - Since "1TB" indicates the capacity, it is redundant to say "in any capacity". The sentence should thus read: this is the first time that a 1TB SDXC has been shown - period
2) "the card is being related under the SanDisk Extreme Pro brand." - "related"??? I can think of several words that would make more sense here: e.g. - the card is being shown, the card is being exhibited, the card is being marketed.
3) "We have however received confirmation" - I know this is nitpicking, but there should be a comma before and after the word "however".
4) "512GB cards could be build using 128Gbit planar dies." - the word should be "built", not "build".
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nagi603 - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
So a dozen of this would have as much space as a quite respectable NAS... if not the speed or reliability. Still, insane.ddriver - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
It will probably be more expensive than 1 tb SSD. Most certainly it will have a much poorer price performance ratio.ABR - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Unless your metrics for performance include space or power consumption.nagi603 - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Exactly. with an rPI or similar, this would mean insane storage per cubic centimeter ratio.ddriver - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
The performance metrics are bandwidth and latency, power consumption would be in the efficiency department. This isn't any denser than other contemporary flash which will end up in SSDs, it still requires an additional controller, and keeping mind mind it is still flash, the only way to get lower power consumption is at the cost of performance.The use case for this product is definitely NOT NAS. It is for cameras and stuff where its low performance wouldn't be a detrimental factor as long as it is enough for the particular application.
Last but not least, it will most likely cost many times its weight in gold.
Morawka - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Well duh, the 512GB model already does this and it's been on the market for over a yeardamianrobertjones - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
So... the sales of the other smaller sized cards is starting to slow and, like magic, this appears.Yay. the $$$ train carries on. I'm sure the price of this 'beast' will be stupid for the first two years.
Death666Angel - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Are you insinuating some sort of conspiracy? Since you are just describing how technical progress works in pretty much any industry. Nothing magic about it.ddriver - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
It works like this - hold off for as long as possible, charge as much as possible, the goal is not innovation, the goal is to make money by keeping progress a hostage.close - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
The goal is not to support your claims, just say dumb shit and try to sound smart while doing it. I happen to have it on good authority that they're actually sitting on $10, 16TB micro SDHC cards (mind you, that's of Secure Digital Humongous Capacity type) but just refuse to put them on the market. They will conveniently show up sometime in the future when it's reasonable to expect such products at such prices and not a day before. Dirty capitalist bastards.Talking about innovations kept under wraps, how's your 5.25" hard drive revolution doing? Are the big names still trying to keep you down?
ddriver - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
What was that? Did someone fart? Smells like it...MrSpadge - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
You talk like 256 GBit dies and 32-high chip stacks would have been around for a long time. They were not, at least not with any prospect of affordable mass production.xype - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
You and your reason are getting in the way of a perfectly fine mini-conspiracy-theory!bill.rookard - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Just waiting for a 20 slot, USB 3 card adapter to go with a bunch of them. Imagine a NAS which can be plugged into the USB port on a router that draws about 5 watts? 10 card JBOD in a RAID mirror. Might not be the fastest, but it would be 'fast enough' for a write-once-read-often type of storage like a media server.jwhannell - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Why not just buy a single 32TB SSD and put it in a USB drive cage and plug it in. It sounds nuts but that will be doable in just a few years...I love the novelty of your idea though! It would look pretty funny.
WithoutWeakness - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
It would be absurdly expensive though in terms of cost per GB. The 512GB version of this card sells for ~$350 on Amazon which means the street price of this 1TB card will certainly be over $500 and likely closer to $800 when it launches. You could buy an 8TB desktop external hard drive for $200 and run it for a lifetime before the cost of electricity offset the upfront cost of buying 8x 1TB SD cards. And if you wanted SSD storage, a 4TB Samsung 850 Evo in a USB 3 enclosure would be around $1500 (less than the cost of 3x 1TB SD cards) and would probably consume around the same amount of power as multiple SD cards in a giant multi-card adapter.A few people had a similar ideas when large (128GB+) USB flash drives started hitting the market but the upfront cost is just too high for what you get both in terms of capacity and performance.
fanofanand - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Yet we still see phones with 8/16 GB as the base storage.mkozakewich - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
I'm sure Apple considers selling an iPhone with 512 GB for an extra $200.AnnonymousCoward - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Meh, 256GB microSD cards are more impressive, and useful.mkozakewich - Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - link
Oh man, it's nearly the end of SDXC! Remember when it first came out, and we finally had a means of getting cards higher than 32 GB?I assume they'll reach the maximum of 2 TB in a couple years, and then will just kind of hold it there until the price comes down to a couple hundred dollars. Maybe they'll switch to UFS II or III by then.
extide - Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - link
Wow, it wont be long before we need yet ANOTHER SD card standard .. as SDXC "only" goes to 2TB. I didn't think we would get there this fast ... woah.LordConrad - Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - link
"More importantly, to our knowledge this is the first time that a 1TB SDXC has been shown off in any capacity."You already stated the capacity, I think you mean, "in any form".
weilin - Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - link
The author is right, He's just using the second definition of "capacity":2. the ability or power to do, experience, or understand something
LordConrad - Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - link
Then call it a bad pun.keith3000 - Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - link
There are a number of grammatical errors that should be corrected:1) "this is the first time that a 1TB SDXC has been shown off in any capacity." - Since "1TB" indicates the capacity, it is redundant to say "in any capacity". The sentence should thus read: this is the first time that a 1TB SDXC has been shown - period
2) "the card is being related under the SanDisk Extreme Pro brand." - "related"??? I can think of several words that would make more sense here: e.g. - the card is being shown, the card is being exhibited, the card is being marketed.
3) "We have however received confirmation" - I know this is nitpicking, but there should be a comma before and after the word "however".
4) "512GB cards could be build using 128Gbit planar dies." - the word should be "built", not "build".