Acer V7-482PG: Subjective Evaluation

As you might guess from the introduction, I’m quite enamored with the overall experience on the Acer V7-482PG-9884 (which I’m just going to refer to as the V7 going forward, though as always Acer has many slightly different V7 models). I really hate seeing a laptop that gets most things right and then falls flat on its face when you get to an important element like the display, keyboard, or even the touchpad. Performance can be excellent but subjectively you may end up hating a laptop if it really misses in one of these areas; conversely, moderate performance coupled with a great display and at least a good keyboard and touchpad will generally keep me happy. There are other potential “gotchas” as well, like WiFi performance, battery life, sound quality, or just general aesthetics and build quality. I’m happy to report that Acer gets just about everything right, with my only complaint being more personal preference than serious problem (though some people might feel strongly enough that they would shy away). Let’s take everything in turn.

Starting with the build quality and aesthetics, I’m actually getting more than a little tired of the black brushed aluminum laptops. Black isn’t necessarily a bad color choice, but it does show oily fingerprint marks a lot more than other colors. Acer uses a gun metal color instead (silver/grey if you prefer), and while you can still see fingerprints on the palm rest and cover, they’re not nearly as obtrusive as what you get with black laptops. It’s a nice color choice I think, though maybe “too boring” for some. The bottom of the chassis has a soft-touch coating that gives you a better grip when holding or carrying the laptop. Build quality is very good overall—not at the level of a unibody aluminum chassis like the Razer Blade or MacBook Air/Pro, but the V7 feels reasonably rigid and the only real complaint is that the seams are visible all around the borders of the chassis. The display doesn’t bend or twist much, probably in part thanks to the thicker construction for the touchscreen. The V7 is simply a really good build from Acer, a company not always associated with such things.

The screen is probably one of the best and most surprising aspects, and I suppose it has more to do with this being the V7 model (as opposed to the V3 or V5), so keep that in mind. Acer uses an AU Optronics B140HAN01.1 panel, with AUO’s AHVA technology (Advanced Hyper Viewing Angle), which is basically a variation on the IPS/PLS technology seen in other LCDs. As the name implies, AHVA gives you wider viewing angles than TN, though colors and overall quality still depend on the backlighting used. AUO uses standard WLED backlighting in this case, which results in merely average color quality, but the contrast ratio and viewing angles at least are what they should be. For a higher end laptop, this is a good fit, and while touchscreens aren’t going to be everyone’s favorite way of interacting with a laptop, I’d say it’s better to have one and not use it than to not have one and need it. I do wonder how much having a touchscreen really adds to the BoM, though; if it’s a significant expense, I’d love to see a lower cost V7 without the touchscreen and with a good quality matte panel instead…but that’s just me being greedy. Overall, I have no complaints with the display quality.

Sound quality is actually surprisingly good, far better than I was expecting. The Acer R7 also has good audio quality for a laptop, but that’s a 15.6” screen chassis, so getting the same quality from a 14” screen laptop is far from my normal expectations. If you’re the type of person that uses your laptop’s speakers regularly to listen to music or watch a movie, the V7 is better than any other 14” or smaller laptop that I can think of—other similar sized laptops might match its audio quality, but I can’t come up with any that clearly sound better.

The one area where I start to have some complaints is with the input devices – and locating the power button on the side of the laptop just doesn’t work for me; I hit it once when trying to insert a USB stick, and that was one time too many! Back to the input devices, Acer uses a Synaptics ClickPad v8.1 touchpad, and they’re basically the best option in my experience. However, there’s still variation in how the touchpad feels even with the same core hardware—the size of the touchpad as well as the surface material and design of the laptop can have an impact. In the case of the V7, I get periodic accidental activation of the touchpad while typing, even with all of the usual features to mitigate such things cranked to maximum. It’s not unusable, and some of this may just be my personal style of typing, but it can be a bit annoying at times. When I’m sitting down and actually typing on the V7 (like right now), it’s often easier to simply disable the touchpad with the Fn+F7 shortcut—and the touchscreen remains active, so if you don’t mind the occasional screen smudges you can get the “best” of both worlds.

The keyboard is a slightly more difficult item to judge. I like the layout a lot—it’s basically the same layout as on MSI’s GE40. In that review I noted, “Opinions on what makes for a good keyboard vary from user to user; personally, I really like having dedicated document navigation keys. Several years ago, the most common layout placed the document navigation keys in a column on the right of the keyboard, but for some reason we’ve moved away from that standard. Sometimes progress doesn’t actually move us forward, and I’m happy to see that MSI uses the tried-and-true layout.” Acer’s layout is the same, give or take minor differences, so I don’t have any issues there. The problem is that where the MSI GE40 had reasonable key travel, the travel on the V7 is definitely shallow—bordering on “too shallow” for some, I’m sure.

I admit that having done some serious scrambling of my typing brain over the past six months with the TECK, Kinesis Advantage, and ErgoDox has resulted in me being more forgiving of keyboard oddities, but at the same time I still like more key travel than what you get on the V7. I’ve also noticed that on laptops where the display comes into contact with the keyboard when closed, you can get some smudges/residue on the LCD over time, and while I don’t see that on the V7 right now I expect it will happen eventually—a slightly higher lip around the display or a recessed LCD could alleviate this, but the V7 has neither of those. Anyway, shallow key travel is something we’ve noticed on numerous Ultrabooks since they first started showing up, and while it’s not a personal showstopper, this is a keyboard that some users may not like.

Rounding things out, battery life is excellent, considering Acer equips the V7 with a 4-cell 53Wh Lithium-polymer battery (which is actually a pretty high capacity for a 4-cell battery). In our Light testing (moderate surfing of the Internet), we came in just shy of seven hours with the LCD set to 200 nits, and while I’ve been typing in Word for the past several hours I’ve only used 28% of the battery charge, with an estimated 6 hours and 10 minutes remaining, so light word processing and such at lower LCD brightness could easily get you into the 8-9 hour range. The wireless solution in the V7 is decent in my experience, though I’m saddened that Acer chose to go with Intel’s Wireless-N 7260 instead of the Wireless-AC 7260. I don’t know how much Acer saved by omitting 802.11ac support, but having now tasted of the 802.11ac goodness it’s hard for me to go from real-world transfer rates of 30-50MBps down to 10-20MBps. Thankfully, Acer still manages to include Gigabit Ethernet, so for LAN parties you shouldn’t have to worry about the all-too-common WiFi issues.

In terms of performance, obviously we’re not expecting something that can handle anything and everything without batting an eye. The ULT processors are plenty fast for most home and office tasks, but demanding video editing or computational task can be a bit slow. Video transcoding with any application that uses Intel’s Quick Sync technology will thankfully not be a problem. I’ve already mentioned the hybrid storage as being a bit of a downer, but you can open the chassis and upgrade the mSATA and/or 2.5” HDD if you’re so inclined. Last but not least, there’s the GPU, and this is one other area where I just want to scream, “WHY!?”

The GT 750M should be reasonably fast, and past experience with other 384 CUDA core Kepler GPUs suggests it will handle 1366x768 without a problem, but 1600x900 with higher quality settings might be asking too much. The real issue however is that instead of higher bandwidth 4GHz GDDR5 memory, Acer opted for 1.8GHz DDR3 RAM—less than half the bandwidth, all told. The kicker is that Acer gives you 4GB of DDR3 for a GPU that has no business using more than 2GB – it’s simply not powerful enough to warrant having that much RAM.

Basically, the combination of a good 1080p display with a midrange mobile GPU and DDR3 RAM isn’t ideal for gaming; you’ll either need to run at Low/Medium 1080p or else drop the resolution to 900p or even 768p and run at Medium/High. While neither option is ideal, personally I’d rather have a laptop that gets everything else right and comes with a quality LCD then to get a faster GPU with a lower resolution/lower quality display. Granted, 2GB GDDR5 might only be 10-15% faster in most cases, but it’s a far more sensible configuration for the GT 750M than 4GB DDR3. Despite my complaints, however, with the V7 it’s important to remember that there’s always the option to run at lower settings/resolutions to be playable. A “good fit for the GPU” 1366x768 LCD that ruins the experience outside of games would be worse overall (in my opinion at least); this was one of our major complaints with the earlier M3 and M5. Laptops like the MSI GE40 and Razer Blade 14 are going to be much faster gaming systems, but the displays make them less desirable for just about any other use.

For those of you who you prefer a more concise subjective evaluation, here you go. The Acer V7 delivers the goods when it comes to the LCD, build quality, aesthetics, keyboard layout, performance, and battery life. The WiFi and touchpad are okay, though I had periodic accidental activations of the touchpad (which is easy to disable for longer typing sessions if necessary). My biggest complaint is with the keyboard key travel, and I’m sure some will also raise an eyebrow or two at the price. Overall, however, this is a very solid offering from Acer. Now let’s see how it actually performs.

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  • lmcd - Saturday, August 24, 2013 - link

    I'd personally bet you don't even need the dGPU. I'd consider picking up an ultrabook with the right size screen and screen res.

    I can't judge 3D Home Architect but based on what I'm seeing it seems legacy. I think iGPU graphics should handle it just fine, and again, a dGPU would be wasted.

    I'd strongly recommend picking a Haswell-only model, though I'd consider waiting to see what Haswell with Iris HD Pro brings (power consumption).

    One last question though: what screen res is that 24 inch monitor? 1920x1080 will be fine (and I don't think much else exists at that screen size) but I wonder how well 1440p would run off an iGPU (probably not that well).
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  • JarredWalton - Saturday, August 24, 2013 - link

    Yeah, what lmcd said. For the applications you're running, the dGPU isn't needed -- it's just taking space and perhaps a little bit of power. I'd estimate the 720M is only about 30-50% faster than the HD 4400, so if you could get something with HD 5000 the gap would be even smaller. We've got a laptop with Iris Pro 5200 Graphics inbound, but the cost may be too high relative to Optimus models to make it worthwhile.

    Of course, if you can't find another laptop with a decent 1080p display for less than $1050, the 15.6" V7 isn't terrible -- it's just not as good (IMO) as the smaller V7.
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  • Bob Todd - Saturday, August 24, 2013 - link

    I'm assuming that's a 47W quad you've got coming from the SKUs I've seen, but any insights into when we'll see the dual core 28W HD 5100 parts? My wallet is begging to be abused by a very portable machine that can last 12 hours in light duty and still play most current games (~720p/low). Preferably before my next flight to India :/. Reply
  • dareo - Sunday, August 25, 2013 - link

    Thanks for the feedback. Since I'm giving myself to the end of the year for making the purchase, I'll throw this one into the spreadsheet that I'm using for evaluating alternatives. Reply
  • dareo - Saturday, August 24, 2013 - link

    The monitor res is 1920x1080 as you suspected which, for what I do, is just fine.

    I'd agree that the iGPU is fine for 90% of what I do so that definitely makes it good enough. Nevertheless, that last 10% (3D Home Architect) can be frustrating at times. My current laptop has a Core i5 M430 and a GeForce 310M. Doing a 3D walkthrough of complex drawings is very choppy.
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  • rootheday - Sunday, August 25, 2013 - link

    Based on the benchmarks at notebookcheck.net, haswell iGpu in ultrabook 15w skus (hd4200, hd4400) are about 2x the performance of the 310m. Reply
  • powerfox - Saturday, August 24, 2013 - link

    According to various things I've read online, that port on the back may or may not be a Mini DisplayPort. Are you able to test if it is and if 2560x1440 output is possible? I've been considering this computer, but connecting it to my U2711 is important to me. Thanks. Reply
  • JarredWalton - Saturday, August 24, 2013 - link

    Sadly, I don't even had a DisplayPort capable LCD, let alone one with 1440p support. I've been using a couple older 30" DL-DVI displays for years, and have no reason to upgrade yet (and no space for another display). Acer calls it a mini-VGA, but you need an adapter for that, and apparently they also support a few other things with the port via adapters. But they do not guarantee displays will work. This is all based on information from the R7 though -- they don't have a spec sheet for the V7 posted yet, oddly enough.

    http://acer.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3...
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  • hfm - Saturday, August 24, 2013 - link

    Personally, for gaming, moving away from native resolution is the worst thing you can do. The Razer 14 even with it's questionable panel is in a different league for gaming concerns. Reply
  • davejake - Saturday, August 24, 2013 - link

    Jarred, your reviews are the only ones I've really come to trust as I'm shopping for a new laptop. Thanks for the level-headed subjective analysis combined with the well-analyzed raw data. Whatever compensation you get for doing these reviews... it should be more!

    The only thing that is stopping me from snagging this laptop right now is that the specs on the (ever?) forthcoming Gigabyte p34g and p35k look compelling-- like the V7 on steroids without the touchscreen. What's the "major flaw" that you're concerned about with those? I, and I'm guessing many others, would be interested in your assessment. I'm guessing price, heat, battery life, and availability are the likely "gotchas." Thanks!
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