Tyan Transport TA26
It has taken us a while, but we finally have a full blown Socket F server in the labs.
The Tyan TA26's front
The 2U rack-mountable barebone TA26 B2932 supports two Socket F Opterons and didn't have any trouble with our Opteron 3.2GHz parts. (The BIOS was flashed to version 2.0). The exact model in the lab is the B2932T26W8HR which supports eight hot swappable SAS disks and a (1+1) redundant 600W power supply.
The internals of our Tyan Server
The motherboard in the system is the TYAN Thunder n3600M S2932, which is based on the NVIDIA nForce Pro 3600. A total of sixteen DDR2 DIMM sockets support up to 64GB of registered DDR2-667 memory. Two PCI Express x16 slots (x8 electrical) allow interested sysops to turn this server into an SLI gaming machine, but you'll need 2U GeForce cards.... (We are kidding, of course.) It is good to see that there are still two PCI-X 133/100MHz, one PCI-X 100MHz, and one 32-bit PCI slot available as this will protect any previous investments in NICs and storage adapters.
Our experiences were very good with this server: removable components such as fans, heatsinks, disks, and PSUs are very user-friendly and easy to use. We saw only one minor disadvantage: the three fast fans are capable of cooling the 3.2GHz chips, but when one fails the cooling system hits its limits. We didn't experience any crashes, but the CPUs got very hot (70-75°C) with two fans. On the plus side, the automatic fan speed control does a very good job in adjusting fan speed to provide sufficient heat dissipation. There is very little latency: the fan speed almost immediately increases as the CPU throttles up from being idle at 1GHz to full load at 3.2GHz.
It has taken us a while, but we finally have a full blown Socket F server in the labs.
The Tyan TA26's front
The 2U rack-mountable barebone TA26 B2932 supports two Socket F Opterons and didn't have any trouble with our Opteron 3.2GHz parts. (The BIOS was flashed to version 2.0). The exact model in the lab is the B2932T26W8HR which supports eight hot swappable SAS disks and a (1+1) redundant 600W power supply.
The internals of our Tyan Server
The motherboard in the system is the TYAN Thunder n3600M S2932, which is based on the NVIDIA nForce Pro 3600. A total of sixteen DDR2 DIMM sockets support up to 64GB of registered DDR2-667 memory. Two PCI Express x16 slots (x8 electrical) allow interested sysops to turn this server into an SLI gaming machine, but you'll need 2U GeForce cards.... (We are kidding, of course.) It is good to see that there are still two PCI-X 133/100MHz, one PCI-X 100MHz, and one 32-bit PCI slot available as this will protect any previous investments in NICs and storage adapters.
Our experiences were very good with this server: removable components such as fans, heatsinks, disks, and PSUs are very user-friendly and easy to use. We saw only one minor disadvantage: the three fast fans are capable of cooling the 3.2GHz chips, but when one fails the cooling system hits its limits. We didn't experience any crashes, but the CPUs got very hot (70-75°C) with two fans. On the plus side, the automatic fan speed control does a very good job in adjusting fan speed to provide sufficient heat dissipation. There is very little latency: the fan speed almost immediately increases as the CPU throttles up from being idle at 1GHz to full load at 3.2GHz.
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2ManyOptions - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
... for most of the benchmarks Intel chips performed better than the Opterons, don't know why Intel should get scared from these, they can safely wait for Barcelona. Didn't really understand why you have out it as AMD is still in game with these in the 4S space.baby5121926 - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
intel got scared because they dont want to see the real result from AMD + ATI.the longer intel lets AMD lives, the more dangerous intel will be.
that's why you guys can see Intel is attacking AMD really really hard at this meantime... just to kick AMD out of the game.
Justin Case - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
What are the units in the WinRAR results table?coldpower27 - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
Check Intel own pricing lists, and you will see that Intel has already pre-empted some of these cuts with their Xeon X5355 at $744 or Xeon E5345 at $455 and the "official" Xeon X5365 should be cout soon if not already...http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/pricelist/proce...">http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/pric...rice_lis...
TheOtherRizzo - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
I know nothing about 4S servers. But what's the essence of this article? Surely not that NetBurst is crap? We've known that for years. Is the real story here that Intel doesn't really give a s*** about 4S, otherwise they would have moved on to the core 2 architecture long ago? Just guessing.coldpower27 - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
Xeon 7300 Series based on the Tigerton core which is a 4 Socket Capable Kentsfield/Clovertown derivatives is arriving in Sepetember this year, so Intel does care in becoming more competitive in the 4S space, but it is just taking some time.They decided to concentrate on the high volume 2S sector is all first, since Intel has massive capacity, going for the high volume sector first makes sense.
mino - Monday, August 13, 2007 - link
Yes and no, actually to have two intel quads running on a single FSB was a serious technical problem.Therefore they had to wait for 4-FSB chipset to be able to get them out the door. Not to mention the qualification times which are a bit onger for 4S platforms that 2S.
AMD does not have these obstacles as 8xxx series are essentially 2xxx series from stability/reliability POW.
Calin - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
The 5160 processor is Core2 unit, not a NetBurst one. Also, the 5345 is a quad core based on Core2jay401 - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
People built 3.0GHz - 3.33GHz E4300 & E4400 systems six months ago that cost roughly $135 for the CPU. Others went for an E6300 or more recently an E6320, both again under $200.They were all relatively easy overclocks.
Why does anyone with any skill in building their own computer care about an $800+ CPU again?
Calin - Monday, August 6, 2007 - link
Why don't Ford Mustangs use a small engine, overclocked to hell? Like an inline 4 2.0l with turbo, and a high rpm instead of their huge 4+ liter engines?Why do trucks use those big engines, when they could get the same power from a smaller, gasoline, turbocharged engine?
People pay $800+ for processors that work in multiprocessor systems (your run of the mill Athlon64 or E4300 won't run). Also, they use error checking (and usually error correcting) memory in their systems - again, Athlon64 doesn't do this. They also use registered DDR in order to access more memory banks - your Athlon64 again falls short. On the E4300 side, the chipset is responsible with those things, so you could use such a processor in a server chassis - if the socket fits.