The Biostar A10N-8800E Motherboard Review: Carrizo in 2019?!
by Dr. Ian Cutress & Gavin Bonshor on August 14, 2019 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
- Motherboards
- CPUs
- AMD
- Biostar
- Mini ITX
- HTPC
- Carrizo
- A10N-8800E
- FX-8800P
- Athlon 200GE
Integrated Graphics Performance
One of the target markets that Biostar is going for with these mobile chips in mini-ITX boards is the low-end desktop gaming market. By using one of AMD's best non-Zen APUs, Featuring 512 SPs of Radeon 'R7' graphics, the SoC boasts more graphics and OpenCL power than any standard Intel CPU at this price range. As with our previous benchmarks, we wanted to pit it against the Athlon 200GE, which would be the APU of choice in this price segment. The Athlon 200GE only has 3 CUs of Vega graphics, but a much stronger CPU (and more power headroom), so this should be interesting.
All our games tested are at our 'IGP' settings, which are around the 720p minimum category, title dependent.
IGP Conclusions
As to be expected, when we are graphically limited, the Carizzo and the Zen APUs are evenly matched. In the case of Final Fantasy, the Carizzo APU outperforms the Zen APU by a comfortable margin (though I wouldn't really say 12 FPS is playable). In the CPU limited test, World of Tanks, the Zen APU takes a large win on average frame rates, but at the 95th percentile the APUs are again, matched.
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krumme - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Wsa vs wsaFight!
Smell This - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link
Wafer Supply Agreements ?I'm thinking AT missed the boat on this one. Show us a 'head-to-head' with the 'old' AMD Carrizo against the Gemini/Apollo 'Mistakes by The' Lakes ...
cen - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Not sure who this is for?DanNeely - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Entry level DIY NAS would be one possibility; 4x sata would be much better fit for the use case though.My current NAS is build around a 2015 equivalent of this board 4 sata ports (3 used, 2 for storage one for the OS).
cen - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
CPU is fine for a NAS, everything else is not really suitable. I guess it's cheap tho.MDD1963 - Friday, August 30, 2019 - link
Yes, who needs more than 2 SATA ports anyway! :)Flunk - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Atom-based alternatives are cheaper and pull less power.emn13 - Thursday, August 15, 2019 - link
raspberry pi 4 is even cheaper, smaller, and around as fast as an atom; around half as fast as this, and it uses *much* less power (7.6W under load!) . It's a considerable step up from from the pi 3; and it comes with usb3, so it's quite decent for a NAS too, and even for reasonable webbrowsing and 4k 60Hz video decoding. Frankly, it's I'm not sure why you've ever bother with an atom or something like this given the price and power difference if you're looking for a media center or NAS. And the whole thing is just 35$! And another advantage is the community; since there's relatively little pi hardware variation in the core bits, you can be sure your linux distro is being used by lots and lots of hardware nerds and likely very well supported for a long, long time. Seriously, it's just no competition.However, if you want to run any x86 games or legacy office apps rather than say, google docs, then the atom or this thing makes more sense. But as a tiny home server / media center? The Pi is better in almost all ways: much cheaper, much less power hungry, much more likely to be long-term better supported, and almost as fast.
LoneWolf15 - Monday, August 26, 2019 - link
A Pi is far more limiting on I/O throughput even with USB3.Don't get me wrong, a Pi4 is great for HTPC use, or other embedded computing, but it just doesn't have what I'd want for storage options for a NAS or microserver.
I'd be much more likely to look at something like this:
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/J5005-ITX/index.as...
I had the Braswell one for a bit; while I'm not normally an Asrock fan, the product was quite reasonable, or would have been if Intel hadn't gimped the video a bit and not publicly disclosed it (fixed in Apollo Lake and Gemini Lake CPUs).
mr_tawan - Thursday, September 12, 2019 - link
I don't have a PI4. Had use PI2 before I moved to a Zyxel NAS (with Arch Linux). I'm looking for replacing the Zyxel with probably my current PC (Core i5 4460).Anyway, during my PI2 day, I found it has some stability issue (it crashes every now and then) and the transfer rate is not that impressed (single digit on SMB if I'm not mistaken).
So how does the PI4 performs in those area then?