GeForce 6200 TurboCache: PCI Express Made Useful

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• PrinceGaz - Thursday, December 16, 2004 - link

  #28- see page 2 of the article, the text just above the diagram near the bottom of the page "Even on the 915 chipset from Intel, bandwith is limited across the PCI Express bus. Rather than a full 4GB/s up and 4GB/s down, Intel offers only 3GB/s up and 1GB/s down..."
  
  #25- I'd also always assumed that all PCIe x16 sockets could support 4GB/s both ways, this is the first time I've heard otherwise. And it isn't even 4/1, it's 3/1 according to the info given.
  
  Derek- is this limited PCIe x16 bandwidth common to all chipsets?

• DerekWilson - Thursday, December 16, 2004 - link

  We tested the 32MB 64-bit $99 version of the card that "supports" a 128MB framebuffer.
  
  #31 is correct -- the maximum of 112 of 96 (or 192 for the 256 MB version) of system RAM is not staticly mapped. It's always avalable to the system under 2D operation. Under 3D, it's not likely that the entire framebuffer would be absolutely full at any given time anyway.

• Alphafox78 - Thursday, December 16, 2004 - link

  doesnt it dynamicly allocate the extra memory it needs? so this would just affect games then if it needed more, not regular apps that done need lots of video memory.

• rqle - Thursday, December 16, 2004 - link

  so total cost of these card is the card price + (price of 128MB worth of DDR at the time)?

• Maverick2002 - Thursday, December 16, 2004 - link

  I'm likewise confused. At the end of the review they say:
  
  "There will also be a 64MB 64-bit TC part (supporting 256MB) available for $129 coming down the pipeline at some point, though we don't have that part in our labs just yet."
  
  Didn't they just test this card???

• KalTorak - Thursday, December 16, 2004 - link

  #25 - huh? (I have no idea what that term means in the context of PCIe, and I know PCIe pretty well...)

• KayKay - Thursday, December 16, 2004 - link

  I think this is a good product, i think it could be a very good part for companies like dell, if they include it into their systems. cheaper than the x300se's they currently include, but better performance, and will appeal to that type of customer

• mczak - Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - link

  #24, from the description it sounds like for the radeon igp there is no problem with both using sideport and system memory simultaneously for directly rendering into (the interleaved mode exactly sounds like part of all buffers would be allocated in system memory, though maybe that's not what is meant).

• IntelUser2000 - Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - link

  WTF!! I never new Intel's 915 chipsets used 4/1GB implementation of PCI Express!! Even Anandtech's own article didn't say that they said 4/4.

• DerekWilson - Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - link

  As far as I understand Hypermemory, it is not capable of rendering directly to system memory.
  
  Also, when Hypermemory needs to go to allocate system RAM for anything, there is a very noticeable performance hit.
  
  We tested the 16MB/32-bit and the 32MB/64-bit
  
  The 64MB version available is only 64-bit ... NVIDIA uses four 8M x 16 memory chips.