Intel to Launch New X-Series CPUs this Fall

37 Comments

View All Comments

• rtho782 - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link

  I mean, both platforms use the same RAM and if you want to change your intel CPU you need a new motherboard anyway, they make sure of that with practically every release.

• inighthawki - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link

  I'm actually going to be upgrading my PC soon. Had you asked me a year or two ago I wouldn't have even considered AMD as an option for a high end gaming PC, but the 3800X and 3900X look really compelling and are likely to be the CPU of choice for my next system. I have no doubt in my mind that many others feel the same way and AMD is almost certainly going to gain some marketshare from new system builders.

• Frank_M - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link

  The reason some of us may be forced to continue using Intel processors is software support.
  If you need 12 or more cores, you are probably doing mathematical optimization, video rendering, or audio recording/mixing. The software you are using was probably written using the Intel C++ compiler and is optimized for Intel hardware.To quote Mr. Ballmer, "Developers, Developers, Developers...." Also, moving data is just as important as processing data so support for thunderbolt 3 and Optane is a must on any new system. I do like that many of the new AMD boards have PCIe 4.

• 0ldman79 - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link

  The flip side of that is that aside from AVX support lagging on AMD, the differences are minimal. AMD has more execution units, more of them will be idle on Intel optimized software, you'll have more CPU left for other tasks.
  
  That being said, AMD needs to get people optimizing for the Zen architecture, there's seriously 10-20% performance left on the table due to the differences in x-Lake and Zen architectures. *IF* the code was optimized then AMD would have had the IPC advantage on Zen 1. Historically though, this has been their weak spot. The entire Bulldozer architecture wasn't terrible, it just wasn't optimized for *ever*.
  
  AMD has been like an Olympic level runner being forced to swim competitively. Until that changes they're always going to be struggling on some level.

• ajc9988 - Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - link

  You may have missed it, but the X570 boards from some manufacturers DO HAVE thunderbolt 3. Also, you can use Optane drives on AMD boards, just not for the OS. For content creation, you need it for massive files for 8K renders, sure. The low QD on them are great. But, are you suggesting that people NEED Optane memory? I'm very confused by that statement.
  
  Sure, the rest is reasonable *to a degree,* but AMD is working with developers. Also, with the huge IPC increase, the centralizing of the IMC with the I/O to prevent the NUMA situation, the changes to Infinity Fabric, the inclusion of PCIe 4 (which will help with BOTH networking and storage in a significant way, if your infrastructure supports the higher networking speeds that is).
  
  Another point on Optane, it seems absurd to not wait for reviews of the PCIe 4.0 drives, see if Samsung uses Z-NAND on PCIe 4, or to see what comes out of Micron after the deal with Intel over Crosspoint.
  
  @0ldman79 - AVX is used in about 5% of workloads, at least for AI a year or two ago. When you need it, you NEED IT! But, it isn't as ubiquitous as people think.
  
  With changes to Zen 2, by widening the chips, AVX2 will be vastly improved, while there is a chance, but no confirmation, of being able to run some AVX512. That is rumor, not confirmed, on AVX512, though.

• HStewart - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link

  I guess you don't realize this is just the beginning of new architexture 2019 is almost half over with and desktop market is minimal market place compare to lap top. Most of this is on ICE Lake U which is at lower range - but 28Watt version have also been planned and curious what performance they are.

• Korguz - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link

  i guess you havent seen the news on Zen 2 :-) looks to be VERY competitive with intel, and cost must less, i wonder what it will do when AMD moves it to mobile...
  
  oh BTW.. you STILL dont know how to spell architecture CORRECTLY???? wow

• Xyler94 - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link

  know what's more lucrative than laptops? Servers.
  
  Does Intel still hold a dominance in that sector? Absolutely, but AMD is gaining lots of ground because of Zen and Zen2. Once IceLake releases in a Server/Desktop form factor, then you may compare how amazing it is against Zen 2. But until then, all we saw really from Intel was Graphics performance with Gen11. Which is awesome, good on Intel for that... but if Zen2 attacks the laptop market, and proves to be better value all around, I wonder how long Intel will hold it's market lead there too?

• ajc9988 - Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - link

  I disagree with comparing Ice Lake to Zen 2 on servers. By the time it arrives, there will be Zen 3 on 7nm+ or 6nm TSMC.

• Gachigasm - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link

  looks like ryzen 3950x will arrive this year ;)